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Ok now you're talking! Seeing as the basic needs are your primary priority the worst thing you could do is probably to start traveling on day 1, since you have no idea what the rules of the game are and you have nothing that gives you an edge, in other words, you're "soon to be food guy number 29657236".ecchifan96 said:
That gives me an idea. How about we talk about what not to do in case of zombie invasion?
8 random things I just came up with:
I could go on like this all day, but meh :P
But they don't because if they did it would start another world war with other countries using bio weapons.Black_Rock_Shooter said:
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Biological warfare, while horrid, it's still a possibility, and ALL countries WOULD use it.
ANYWAY, when push comes to shove when death is on the line most human's will to live will over power any kind of sense of right and wrong. In most cases it's a act first think later kind of scenario. And for all those people who think that they could be able to survive something that catastrophic actually don't know if they can or not for it has never happened and don't actually know how they would react to a friend of family suddenly trying to kill them.
We're a generation that was raised with the knowledge of what to do in a zombie outbreak. So it could really go either way. You could also be like some, and already discussed what to do if on of you turns into a zombie, so that if the situation arose, your thinking would be, "He would want it to be this way!"
Do the tactics being discussed also apply to an alien invasion?
Maybe, but this is a thread about zombies, so we don't want to veer off from that.
Thou must not forgetteth that thy neighbour may perhaps be mentally compromised...
With that I mean that humans arent smart enough to survive a zombie apocalypse, sure, people like us who are discussing an apocalypse right now, discussing what we can or could do, this gives US a bigger chance of survival, but still the majority of the world population does not believe in zombies, nor have they even HEARD of the term zombies, they refer to zombies as we may know it, as ''OMG monsters and cannibals!!!''...
The world is full of stupid and evil people, how are we supposed to come together and survive a zombie apocalypse when we cant even figure out how we could end wars in the world...
With that I mean that humans arent smart enough to survive a zombie apocalypse, sure, people like us who are discussing an apocalypse right now, discussing what we can or could do, this gives US a bigger chance of survival, but still the majority of the world population does not believe in zombies, nor have they even HEARD of the term zombies, they refer to zombies as we may know it, as ''OMG monsters and cannibals!!!''...
The world is full of stupid and evil people, how are we supposed to come together and survive a zombie apocalypse when we cant even figure out how we could end wars in the world...
General equipment for Zombie apocalypse/alien invasion:
1) Portable water containers: Collect large quantities of water and food, water being the priority. Problem is you'll eventually need to move out. The portable containers allow you to carry what you can with you. Military Jerry cans are preferred for their ability to safely function in a chemical environment
2) NBC/CBRN rated masks: You don't know what the aliens have on them that might carry through the air, chances are what they call the common cold can kill you in seconds. Gunshots also tend to vaporize blood, you don't what that in your lungs if you're dealing with zombies.
3) rain gear: In lieu of having a proper NBC suit a good set of rain pants and jacket can protect you, at least from spraying liquids such as blood or other bodily fluids which may come your way. It is best to use a jacket with draw strings around the hood and base. fully tighten the draw strings of the hood around your face, over the mask. I will not bother mentioning the other benefits of rain gear as that should be basic survival knowledge even if it's just an afternoon in the rain.
4) Transportation: A vehicle that can get you and your equipment out of there and fast. the more compact the vehicle the better. Chances are everyone tried to get on the roads and now they're all dead and their cars are jamming up the road. if your vehicle can squeeze through some tight spots, you're golden. In my case i intend to acquire a Toyota hiace.
5) weaponry: Contrary to popular beliefs a chainsaw is a terrible weapon. It is cumbersome and is difficult to wield effectively. It requires you to enter within the striking zone of your target, and will cause blood to spray everywhere risking contamination of your equipment or infection of near by comrades. Fire arms are preferred however if such are not available shovels or other such long solid tools are better than knives and machetes for the advantage in striking distance. Shotguns are fantastic in tight spaces, however outdoors you're going to want a rifle or slugs so you can take some of them out before they get close. Shot generally has an effective range of about 16 yards.
6) have a plan: Where will you go? where can you hide? start planning now. Figure out possible routes you can take, places you can go for supplies, places to avoid. backup routes you can switch to along the way are a must. Figure out places along the way that are safe for you to stop and rest. places you can barricade yourselves in, permanently if need be.
1) Portable water containers: Collect large quantities of water and food, water being the priority. Problem is you'll eventually need to move out. The portable containers allow you to carry what you can with you. Military Jerry cans are preferred for their ability to safely function in a chemical environment
2) NBC/CBRN rated masks: You don't know what the aliens have on them that might carry through the air, chances are what they call the common cold can kill you in seconds. Gunshots also tend to vaporize blood, you don't what that in your lungs if you're dealing with zombies.
3) rain gear: In lieu of having a proper NBC suit a good set of rain pants and jacket can protect you, at least from spraying liquids such as blood or other bodily fluids which may come your way. It is best to use a jacket with draw strings around the hood and base. fully tighten the draw strings of the hood around your face, over the mask. I will not bother mentioning the other benefits of rain gear as that should be basic survival knowledge even if it's just an afternoon in the rain.
4) Transportation: A vehicle that can get you and your equipment out of there and fast. the more compact the vehicle the better. Chances are everyone tried to get on the roads and now they're all dead and their cars are jamming up the road. if your vehicle can squeeze through some tight spots, you're golden. In my case i intend to acquire a Toyota hiace.
5) weaponry: Contrary to popular beliefs a chainsaw is a terrible weapon. It is cumbersome and is difficult to wield effectively. It requires you to enter within the striking zone of your target, and will cause blood to spray everywhere risking contamination of your equipment or infection of near by comrades. Fire arms are preferred however if such are not available shovels or other such long solid tools are better than knives and machetes for the advantage in striking distance. Shotguns are fantastic in tight spaces, however outdoors you're going to want a rifle or slugs so you can take some of them out before they get close. Shot generally has an effective range of about 16 yards.
6) have a plan: Where will you go? where can you hide? start planning now. Figure out possible routes you can take, places you can go for supplies, places to avoid. backup routes you can switch to along the way are a must. Figure out places along the way that are safe for you to stop and rest. places you can barricade yourselves in, permanently if need be.
Hah! I have a new plan A and B. Plan A. Scroll up I posted it. Plan B, find people like Bringerof_D to tag along on the already planned routes.
I hope everyone else tastes nice *evil grin*
I hope everyone else tastes nice *evil grin*
Time for another new topic! If zombies attacked and you could team up with anyone you want who would it be?
I have many plans, but if I would name all my plans, all my strategies and all my equipments etc., I could write a new Zombie Survival Guide with it...
Basically everything BringofD said, plus even more things...
You'd think ''Oh noes, girlfriends? That will kill you for sure!'' but nope, my girlfriend is not a typical bitchy sorority row girl, she's kinda gothic-like, and she is a gamer girl, so yeah, not your ordinary girl, I can teach her the basic survival things, and I just need her with me at all times, as a companion, partner in crime and as a lover...
The girlfriends of my bestfriends, well, they dont have a girlfriend, so maybe we could stall the 2 girls and replace them with euhm, either nobody or 2 other good friends...
On another note, this vid is hilarious XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4awVqRr1eCo
Basically everything BringofD said, plus even more things...
My 2 best friends I mentioned earlier in this thread (Because they are kind of my clones), and our girlfriends, thats 6 people in total and that is enough...ecchifan96 said:
Time for another new topic! If zombies attacked and you could team up with anyone you want who would it be?
You'd think ''Oh noes, girlfriends? That will kill you for sure!'' but nope, my girlfriend is not a typical bitchy sorority row girl, she's kinda gothic-like, and she is a gamer girl, so yeah, not your ordinary girl, I can teach her the basic survival things, and I just need her with me at all times, as a companion, partner in crime and as a lover...
The girlfriends of my bestfriends, well, they dont have a girlfriend, so maybe we could stall the 2 girls and replace them with euhm, either nobody or 2 other good friends...
On another note, this vid is hilarious XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4awVqRr1eCo
If we're in the same area you are free to join us if we ever meet. however our current preparations only allow for a small group and my crew roster is already set.Mnessie said:
Hah! I have a new plan A and B. Plan A. Scroll up I posted it. Plan B, find people like Bringerof_D to tag along on the already planned routes.
I hope everyone else tastes nice *evil grin*
My plans are open to new members joining our group so long as they can provide for themselves the additional supplies and transportation needs. Further details of our plan will be decided upon arrival at the staging area based on the situation of the infection.
rules are, we will not take anyone with specific dietary needs. so unfortunately one of my best friends cant come because he's a diabetic.
i'll make a post with a list of dos and donts soon
Black Rock Shooter, Batman, Chuck Norris, Tallahassee from Zombieland, and the US military.ecchifan96 said:
Time for another new topic! If zombies attacked and you could team up with anyone you want who would it be?
Be realistic, BRS is fiction, Chucky will probably be already dead because being an internet immortal hero =/= reallife superhero, Tallahassee AKA Woody Harrelson would probably be dead too, or just searching for some twinkees, and the US military, bad, really really bad, NEVER have the military in your party, police is fine, but NEVER the military, they could've been the one's who caused the zombie apocalypse due to the government being part of the military, and when you have soldiers in your team, they might ditch you or do horrible things to you... Ex-marines or black ops are fine, as long as they arent in active duty right as the apocalypse begins...Senakysam said:
Black Rock Shooter, Batman, Chuck Norris, Tallahassee from Zombieland, and the US military.
Oh and dont trust the government, the government = FBI, CIA, MI5, anything that you think is involved with the government, , the news, and the president... The government would want to have the least amount of panic in their country, but fuck that, they were the ones who kept the zombie virus a secret, dont trust these assholes, even in an apocalypse, they could STILL be plotting conspiracies for the new world order, because when the zombies are finally extinct, which could vary from 5 years to 50 years, the government, or anyone who was part of it, can start a new world order...
Don't be a killjoy, a man can dream can't he?Yakkety said:
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*in a somewhat dramatic deep voice*ecchifan96 said:
Don't be a killjoy, a man can dream can't he?
I AM TRYING TO SAFE YOUR LIVES!!!!!!
Being around military for as long as I have, they would not support anything the government did that violates a constitutional right, including slaughtering the people they swore to protect.
And to clarify, unless they get a dishonorable discharge, they never stop being a Marine.
And to clarify, unless they get a dishonorable discharge, they never stop being a Marine.
Yeah well, things change in times of apocalypses, and the government was always corrupt, otherwise they'd never try to cover up these sort of incidents and viruses...Senakysam said:
Being around military for as long as I have, they would not support anything the government did that violates a constitutional right, including slaughtering the people they swore to protect.
The government leads the military, whether you like it or not, without the government the military would be like a headless chicken, the general leads the army right? Well, the general is also part of the pentagon committee (or whatever its called), = government...
BUT, unless you are a military yourself, then forget what I said, since then you are already under the umbrella of the government...
Of course. Everyone in the military is a puppet without any intelligence, got it.
FYI, I'm former US Navy... ^_~
:D!Senakysam said:
Black Rock Shooter...
Ouch man. But no, your completely right about all that. Every zombie thing I've played and or watched, the military was the cause of it, good 80% of the time. And all that stuff about the rest of his team. I say cut it solo, that way you don't have anyone to screw you over.Yakkety said:
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I'd take the time to lay out my battle plan, but that's too much to type and I'm feeling really lazy right now, but it's a mixture of whats been said really.
Actually as a member of the military myself i would have to agree with Yakkety, however for entirely different reasons. The military, or rather the soldiers, will never turn on the civilians. Unless the larger group is put at risk by aiding the smaller group, the soldiers would not leave you out to dry, particularly volunteer armies such as mine.
however from a tactical stand point, hiding behind the army is probably not a good idea depending on what their operations are. If their plan is to evacuate everyone to far off locations then go with them. however if they intend to gather everyone and create a stronghold, that is a red light.
it is most likely that militaries will attempt to create a stronghold where people are checked, grouped, and queued for transportation via helicopter, trucks, or boats. This creates a fatal funnel for survivors which wait at the gates. due to the amount of noise and commotion, zombies will likely gravitate towards this location. Chances are the stronghold will be overrun fairly early in the process. a single infected amongst in the massive gaggle of panicking civilians waiting to be cleared through security will quickly turn disastrous for the checkpoint.
i believe the best government plan in a zombie apocalypse would be to instruct all civilians to stay indoors, while teams clear each house evacuating by neighborhood. This allows for the transport to happen in slow steady streams with no bottle necks. In fact this method may very likely clear out all zombies before evacuation is complete.
however from a tactical stand point, hiding behind the army is probably not a good idea depending on what their operations are. If their plan is to evacuate everyone to far off locations then go with them. however if they intend to gather everyone and create a stronghold, that is a red light.
it is most likely that militaries will attempt to create a stronghold where people are checked, grouped, and queued for transportation via helicopter, trucks, or boats. This creates a fatal funnel for survivors which wait at the gates. due to the amount of noise and commotion, zombies will likely gravitate towards this location. Chances are the stronghold will be overrun fairly early in the process. a single infected amongst in the massive gaggle of panicking civilians waiting to be cleared through security will quickly turn disastrous for the checkpoint.
i believe the best government plan in a zombie apocalypse would be to instruct all civilians to stay indoors, while teams clear each house evacuating by neighborhood. This allows for the transport to happen in slow steady streams with no bottle necks. In fact this method may very likely clear out all zombies before evacuation is complete.
Damn, I didn't want to participate on the whole zombie-fest thing here, but I guess I'll do that now.Bringerof_D said:
i believe the best government plan in a zombie apocalypse would be to instruct all civilians to stay indoors, while teams clear each house evacuating by neighborhood. This allows for the transport to happen in slow steady streams with no bottle necks. In fact this method may very likely clear out all zombies before evacuation is complete.
There is also a huge risk in asking people to stay indoors. That's the risk of the epidemic getting wide-spread on those areas way before they get to be evacuated.
Though it seems like a bad idea to do strong-holds, you'd think that it's easier for the armed forces to protect a single area, rather than have their resources divided up covering the whole city (and the roads used for transportation of civilians).
In fact, a so called "zombie-outbreak" would be treated like you treat epidemics. You'd have multiple strong-holds which need be quarantined. In case the disease spreads within one, nobody can leave/enter until the issue is resolved or the whole camp annihilated.
Do people really think they stand a better chance being low-key in a group of 3~4 rather than using a stronghold with military-grade personnel and weapons backing it up? You guys watch too any lone-hero films if you think that's the case... (in my humble opinion, of course).
I can feel the sarcasm in this, and I can understand why... We the people have learned to trust the military because they ''fight for our freedom'', well thats the case in America, here in Europe, our military fight to protect the people from dangers, but if I go on too much on this military case, then we will probably have a forum fight here...Senakysam said:
Of course. Everyone in the military is a puppet without any intelligence, got it.
Point is, dont trust the military too much, when the outbreak first begins, then you can follow them, but dont stick to them for a long time because yes, the military are puppets of the government, but so are the civilians, of course soldiers will never fire at normal civilians, but what if just a few of them who are either rednecks, or just plain evil human beings, just shoot at everything that doesnt have a military uniform on, there are people like this in the world and you know it, you all know damn well what is happening in Iran and Afghanistan, sure, 99% of all soldiers are good guys, but there is still that 1% that just enjoys killing everything; woman, children, old people...
You dont know what the military is planning, and dont count on them telling you, because even in an apocalypse, they still have classified intel of which no one can know about, thats why you should stick with people you know, or with strangers who you think can be a good addition in your party... Just make sure the strangers arent retards or evil...
@Stahn: Ok, then you can just stick with the military, while the normal civilians can have their own parties...
Not let us forget there are two types of military. There is the non enforced conscription and the conscription types of military. The biggest differences in the simplest form is that the conscription army is for country and civilians safety, while the non enforced conscription army can or will do anything when money involved.
If there is a misunderstanding I meant that a non enforced conscription is more of a mercenary than the person that gone through a military service.
Of course it's more complicated than that and both kinds have their advantages and disadvantages when it comes to a zombie apocalypse.
If there is a misunderstanding I meant that a non enforced conscription is more of a mercenary than the person that gone through a military service.
Of course it's more complicated than that and both kinds have their advantages and disadvantages when it comes to a zombie apocalypse.
Well mercenary groups and PMC's (Private Military Company) will have a hard time, since they work for money, and I dont think the world's money value will be worth something with zombies around, before the outbreak Wall Street will be torn down because of the early incidents, and riots will cause all of the world's money to drop in value... And who needs money in an apocalypse, money has no meaning anymore because you cant buy that Cadillac or PlayStation 4 you've always wanted, no, in an apocalypse, trading supplies such as ammunition and food are the currency, BUT there can always be some idiots who start saying ''Yeah we still pay with real money because after this apocalypse is all over, we will start using the dollar again'', well that plan will go horribly bad because it will take years for the apocalypse to stop, or it wont even end at all unless every human being is dead, and even if it would end, the value of money is still worth poop...FoliFF said:
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PMC's and mercenaries are good people to hang out with though, since they don't belong to a government, and mostly always they also dont belong to a nation, beware that they might be ruthless at some times...
The autopsy revealed that the "zombie" in Florida was indeed high on bath salts. That shit will mess you up.
Anyway, last post here friends. *smooooch*
Anyway, last post here friends. *smooooch*
@Sk7000:
while you may be correct, i do not mean clearing entire cities at once, when i say by neighborhood i literally mean by neighborhood, block by block. This makes things easier for everyone on a macro scale operation. If everyone remained indoors following proper quarantine procedures they can minimize the chance of infection for themselves and others. If all non infected hold up indoors it also makes it easier for soldiers clearing through areas to identify infected from the clean. Finding one infected in a mass of panicking people in the street is like finding a needle in a hay stack. less hay, easier it is.
trying to get everyone through a check point then to be transported elsewhere is like dumping a pot into a funnel. The spill over represents all the problems attributed to a large panicking group of people, from risking contamination in large numbers, to general disorder. Even within the stronghold such a numbers in close proximity means anything will be easily passed on from one person to another. It also means high amounts of garbage, excrements, and other such filthy things which will attract rats and other rodents which ahve a chance of carrying the virus through the barricades undetected.
everyone indoors means less people outside being attacked. this in turn means less zombies gathered at your door means less muscle power to break down your door. You've outlined the standard plan for dealing with epidemics but that does not mean it is a good plan. If people had the discipline to simply lock themselves indoors instead of scrambling for the stronghold where it's "safe," you're helping everybody by staying out of the way.
while you may be correct, i do not mean clearing entire cities at once, when i say by neighborhood i literally mean by neighborhood, block by block. This makes things easier for everyone on a macro scale operation. If everyone remained indoors following proper quarantine procedures they can minimize the chance of infection for themselves and others. If all non infected hold up indoors it also makes it easier for soldiers clearing through areas to identify infected from the clean. Finding one infected in a mass of panicking people in the street is like finding a needle in a hay stack. less hay, easier it is.
trying to get everyone through a check point then to be transported elsewhere is like dumping a pot into a funnel. The spill over represents all the problems attributed to a large panicking group of people, from risking contamination in large numbers, to general disorder. Even within the stronghold such a numbers in close proximity means anything will be easily passed on from one person to another. It also means high amounts of garbage, excrements, and other such filthy things which will attract rats and other rodents which ahve a chance of carrying the virus through the barricades undetected.
everyone indoors means less people outside being attacked. this in turn means less zombies gathered at your door means less muscle power to break down your door. You've outlined the standard plan for dealing with epidemics but that does not mean it is a good plan. If people had the discipline to simply lock themselves indoors instead of scrambling for the stronghold where it's "safe," you're helping everybody by staying out of the way.
Whooo!!
I thought I'd never see you guys again!
I thought I'd never see you guys again!
I agree with you on the military and money debate, but why doesn't anyone consider that after a few years zombies might become part of society?(like a slum-phenomenon, like something that only happens to the poor, like taxes)Yakkety said:
or it wont even end at all unless every human being is dead, and even if it would end, the value of money is still worth poop...
Gregol said:
Whooo!!
I thought I'd never see you guys again!
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I know right! This place has been dead all day, i missed you all! TwT and good to see you again Gregol!I seriously doubt that would happen. Call me crazy but something about the whole cannibalism thing makes that seem unlikely.Gregol said:
I agree with you on the military and money debate, but why doesn't anyone consider that after a few years zombies might become part of society?(like a slum-phenomenon, like something that only happens to the poor, like taxes)
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