@ emmy
Do you have to make it sound so doomed?
I'm saying that you should look at the good things that you have, instead of searching for that happiness that you don't think you have.
REALITY ITSELF IS ONLY RELATIVE. You can't face reality, because it's only relative.
I can lie to myself that all is doomed. I can also lie to myself that my hour to shine has come and I'll try to make a change.
Which do you think is better?
@mnessie
Why can't I just compare my own progress to my own previous state, and be happy about it?
Do you have to make it sound so doomed?
I'm saying that you should look at the good things that you have, instead of searching for that happiness that you don't think you have.
REALITY ITSELF IS ONLY RELATIVE. You can't face reality, because it's only relative.
I can lie to myself that all is doomed. I can also lie to myself that my hour to shine has come and I'll try to make a change.
Which do you think is better?
@mnessie
Why can't I just compare my own progress to my own previous state, and be happy about it?
oh that's not at all what I'm talking about xD now I see why I can't explain this properly!Gregol said:
@mnessie
Why can't I just compare my own progress to my own previous state, and be happy about it?
You can be happy about ANYTHING in ANY state. You just have to define what you think is happy and happy the crap out of yourself. Just look at ecchifan and the famous: "Ignorance is bliss!" remark ^_^.
If all you want to do is take point A and B and define for yourself what progress is then by all means ignore this and continue onwards like that if you find it satisfactory. I'm looking at the bigger picture here and trying to model it where I can smash everything into one big model that can explain stuff like this more accurately and help me compare it to other states and people.
I like you Gregol.
I'm not the doom type of person. I'm just not the type to wear rose-colored glasses.
I'm not the doom type of person. I'm just not the type to wear rose-colored glasses.
That's good as well, we need different people around...
Thanks for cheering me up too.
It means a lot to me...
BTW, my day was a bit of a waste of time, but that's by no means a bad thing. In fact, I really needed that. The sky was shining and the sun was blue...
So I hope all of you made the most out of the weather at your place as well.
Thanks for cheering me up too.
It means a lot to me...
BTW, my day was a bit of a waste of time, but that's by no means a bad thing. In fact, I really needed that. The sky was shining and the sun was blue...
So I hope all of you made the most out of the weather at your place as well.
Damn, people, you've been having a fairly engrossing discussion while I was busy dreaming about some trip to an island.
I see that Mnessie is interested in finding a way to define the "absolute way" things are. Though, as Gregol mentions, it is all relative.
The discussion is reaching a point where it will start involving religion (or philosophy) since we are already reaching the limits of our perception of reality. And to explain the things that go beyond what our senses can detect... well, I suspect a scientific mind is probably not going to like the answer one way or another.
We just can't know in a timely manner the consequences of our actions, thus it's rather pointless to try to focus on measuring our progress.
Previous concept applied to the whole "Point A, B and C" analogy.
Phew, sorry if I didn't go into more detail, but I think this would be one case where you, Mnessie, could be missing the forest for the trees if you persist in going that way.
PS: By the way, this does not mean that I don't endorse reflecting back on your daily actions and wondering if you could have done better. Continual contemplation and refining of the self is a worthy task. I am just saying that in most cases your knowledge of the consequences is too limited to properly use as a measuring tool.
I see that Mnessie is interested in finding a way to define the "absolute way" things are. Though, as Gregol mentions, it is all relative.
The discussion is reaching a point where it will start involving religion (or philosophy) since we are already reaching the limits of our perception of reality. And to explain the things that go beyond what our senses can detect... well, I suspect a scientific mind is probably not going to like the answer one way or another.
We just can't know in a timely manner the consequences of our actions, thus it's rather pointless to try to focus on measuring our progress.
Previous concept applied to the whole "Point A, B and C" analogy.
Phew, sorry if I didn't go into more detail, but I think this would be one case where you, Mnessie, could be missing the forest for the trees if you persist in going that way.
PS: By the way, this does not mean that I don't endorse reflecting back on your daily actions and wondering if you could have done better. Continual contemplation and refining of the self is a worthy task. I am just saying that in most cases your knowledge of the consequences is too limited to properly use as a measuring tool.
I think that this discussion has strayed away far enough from the actual forum topic.
So I suggest to leave it at this, and continue somewhere else.
I'm going to enjoy some dinner with friends later today. Well enjoy, the choose an Italian place, and I really hate italian food. Though I don't detest Pizza, I don't really like it either. This will be a short night, since I have to get up pretty early again tomorrow. Ugh.. 2 weeks left until summer.. What I will do than.. probably nothing. I got to get myself that job, and buy myself a 3ds =[
So I suggest to leave it at this, and continue somewhere else.
I'm going to enjoy some dinner with friends later today. Well enjoy, the choose an Italian place, and I really hate italian food. Though I don't detest Pizza, I don't really like it either. This will be a short night, since I have to get up pretty early again tomorrow. Ugh.. 2 weeks left until summer.. What I will do than.. probably nothing. I got to get myself that job, and buy myself a 3ds =[
If only these forums were a bit more feature-full, we could just request to move all the off-topic replies to the happiness thread.
Honestly, that thread is the one where all the philosophy should go, but instead it's spilled all over the place x_X How about if... anybody else wants to continue on that topic, hit "quote" and paste that over in that thread and reply there, to keep it in topic?
Although.... I find a bit strange to have a "how was your day?" topic. It really seems to be such a... simple topic. As if to tell you "if you have nothing else to do, just write here. Whatever, daily. :D"
I could talk about my day and my thoughts, but those would be boring topics with no substance. I am just clearing up some stuff while thinking of properly porting my GTK theme to Gtk+3. See, who cares about that? In fact, who thinks I just made those words up? XP
Though, a friend invited me out tonight to go around the city. It's "music party" (fête de la musique) today, so there should be a bunch of people playing music all over town tonight :3
Honestly, that thread is the one where all the philosophy should go, but instead it's spilled all over the place x_X How about if... anybody else wants to continue on that topic, hit "quote" and paste that over in that thread and reply there, to keep it in topic?
Although.... I find a bit strange to have a "how was your day?" topic. It really seems to be such a... simple topic. As if to tell you "if you have nothing else to do, just write here. Whatever, daily. :D"
I could talk about my day and my thoughts, but those would be boring topics with no substance. I am just clearing up some stuff while thinking of properly porting my GTK theme to Gtk+3. See, who cares about that? In fact, who thinks I just made those words up? XP
Though, a friend invited me out tonight to go around the city. It's "music party" (fête de la musique) today, so there should be a bunch of people playing music all over town tonight :3
I was practicing for my last exam the whole day today.
There was a moment, when I just didn't do anything. I just listened to the radio, thought about how atoms in the air vibrate to bring me that sound, that carries some special meaning for us. Thought about this and that. Interestingly, I don't remember what other things I thought.
During such moments I understand best just what it means to be alive. The ordinary beauty of that moment enthralled me completely. I enjoyed pure bliss.
Just thought that I should share it...
EDIT:
just heard the news about a five year old picking up a pipe bomb(?!)
he's in a coma now..
just makes you want to become a multi-quadrillionaire(the european meaning) and sculpt the world to your liking...
There was a moment, when I just didn't do anything. I just listened to the radio, thought about how atoms in the air vibrate to bring me that sound, that carries some special meaning for us. Thought about this and that. Interestingly, I don't remember what other things I thought.
During such moments I understand best just what it means to be alive. The ordinary beauty of that moment enthralled me completely. I enjoyed pure bliss.
Just thought that I should share it...
EDIT:
just heard the news about a five year old picking up a pipe bomb(?!)
he's in a coma now..
just makes you want to become a multi-quadrillionaire(the european meaning) and sculpt the world to your liking...
Been working 14 hours last two days. And today over 24 hours .....only small breaks and a tiny power nap...
Starting to hallucinate again >_> nothing serious tho. Just eye floaters + creative brain.
Gotta make a deadline :S
So tired :(
Starting to hallucinate again >_> nothing serious tho. Just eye floaters + creative brain.
Gotta make a deadline :S
So tired :(
I have sleepless nights when I must make a deadline, too o.o
Thankfully that only happens twice or thrice a year. So my biological health is not at risk :D
And... it's Friday! Yay! sometimes I feel like we live the weekdays only so I can get to the weekends xP
Thankfully that only happens twice or thrice a year. So my biological health is not at risk :D
And... it's Friday! Yay! sometimes I feel like we live the weekdays only so I can get to the weekends xP
Motivation is a scary thing X_X I can just keep working when normally I gotta keep forcing myself to work. Now all I gotta do is stay awake.SK7000 said:
I have sleepless nights when I must make a deadline, too o.o
Thankfully that only happens twice or thrice a year. So my biological health is not at risk :D
And... it's Friday! Yay! sometimes I feel like we live the weekdays only so I can get to the weekends xP
EDIT: Adding headache and twitching eye >_>
Just 2 more hours!
Go Mnessie, go! Use the power of the twitching eye! It's super effective!
lots of capital letters and exclamation marks
AT LAST!!!
MY LAST EVER AND FINAL DAY OF SCHOOL IS FINALLY OVER!!
NEVER SCHOOL EVER AGAIN!!
let's have another drink of cranberry juice, everyone!
I'll just have to visit the building again, if I want to get my results early.
those last three weeks of extremely unhealthy life sure took their toll on my body.
I couldn't sleep tonight, because the side I was lying on hurt, and I can't sleep on my back. Also, I couldn't eat much today(no breakfast, barely any lunch).
The sky was gray, but for some reason I thought that it was a beautiful day.
The last exam was also more difficult than expected...
Anyways, today was brilliant. I'm going karate-training for the first time in three weeks. Also, I completed the challenge my dad set me: to be able to do 10 pull ups before the end of school...
(I could only do nine yesterday)
BTW, sorry for all the capital letters and exclamation marks.
It won't happen again(except, if I happen to dominate earth one day)
AT LAST!!!
MY LAST EVER AND FINAL DAY OF SCHOOL IS FINALLY OVER!!
NEVER SCHOOL EVER AGAIN!!
let's have another drink of cranberry juice, everyone!
I'll just have to visit the building again, if I want to get my results early.
those last three weeks of extremely unhealthy life sure took their toll on my body.
I couldn't sleep tonight, because the side I was lying on hurt, and I can't sleep on my back. Also, I couldn't eat much today(no breakfast, barely any lunch).
The sky was gray, but for some reason I thought that it was a beautiful day.
The last exam was also more difficult than expected...
Anyways, today was brilliant. I'm going karate-training for the first time in three weeks. Also, I completed the challenge my dad set me: to be able to do 10 pull ups before the end of school...
(I could only do nine yesterday)
BTW, sorry for all the capital letters and exclamation marks.
It won't happen again(except, if I happen to dominate earth one day)
I'm already done for the semester but I'll still scream that at the top of my lungs when I finish my list :3Gregol said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll be working my summer job come Monday. I won't mention the details that my work entails, but I know it does involve working in the hot sun at least 6 hours a day.
Lucky you!!
Or, wait....
Is it a good thing?
Or, wait....
Is it a good thing?
I stay hydrated, but the conditions really wear on you. But at least the pay is good, so I can suck it up.Gregol said:
Lucky you!!
Or, wait....
Is it a good thing?
I'm awake again.....turned in the final report. Even had to ask for an extension and told him he'd get it after lunch :3 My work day was from 07:00 to 12:48 the next day >_>. 3 hours of sleep. 2 days before that. 14~16 hours per day of work and still had to do other things on the side. Thank god I decided to dump everything on the last day and only work on writing it. I slept from 13:00 to 22:50 or something. More like a comatose slumber thingy than sleep :o
Just a few more steps and I'm done. I just got accepted at the Uni I was nagging btw. At least I'm pretty sure I did. I'm not convinced so easily but it seemed legit.
all the times and sleeping are outt of whack. It's kinda funny actually. I wake up at night and sleep during the day. Just like I was supposed to live like. Stupid daywalkers >_>. I'd like to continue but gotta work in the weekend as well.
I got a vacation planned later for one week but the rest is pretty much extra time I can finally spend on Japanese Math and Reading. Yay :3
Just a few more steps and I'm done. I just got accepted at the Uni I was nagging btw. At least I'm pretty sure I did. I'm not convinced so easily but it seemed legit.
all the times and sleeping are outt of whack. It's kinda funny actually. I wake up at night and sleep during the day. Just like I was supposed to live like. Stupid daywalkers >_>. I'd like to continue but gotta work in the weekend as well.
I got a vacation planned later for one week but the rest is pretty much extra time I can finally spend on Japanese Math and Reading. Yay :3
Today is raining again, just like yesterday and I'm pretty sure that rain will not stop today -w-...even so, I have to go buy dinner for my little sister and me.. this sucks! and tomorrow I'll have to go to work, hope not to get sick~
have a nice day people~
have a nice day people~
it be a gorey elf!!~
my day?
it always seems to rain when you post on here, it's so odd...Elfengore said:
Today is raining again
my day?
One sheep...two sheep......three sheep.........ZZZZzzzzzzzzkokiriloz said:
my day?
Hello Kokiriloz!!, nice to see you again ^^, how you been?kokiriloz said:
it always seems to rain when you post on here, it's so odd...
and...yes.. if it's raining, sometimes I feel melancolic and this place makes me feel alright ^^' that's the reason that I post when it's raining xD
It's so odd I know it~
My day was bored, I was stuck in my job with a heavy rain again -w-... at least this time I'm not get so wet as the last time ;D yay~! And the good thing is that I'll have the entire week free, probably I'll stay in home playing 360, drinking some beer and smoking cigarettes all the time >w<!
So, have a nice day guys~
I am lucky it didn't rain at all during the weekend, and it only started now, that I am already in the office and well protected from the elements :B
I had a great weekend, frankly. The music festival was a bit of a bummer, but I spent time with friends, and was blessed with the presence of several beautiful ladies around town (I love European women, they are so pretty in average xP). Other than that, it was gaming marathon time.
I didn't even sleep on Saturday, and decided to crash instead at 21:00, on Sunday. x3 A game is good when it keeps you awake for 24 hours straight xD'
I had a great weekend, frankly. The music festival was a bit of a bummer, but I spent time with friends, and was blessed with the presence of several beautiful ladies around town (I love European women, they are so pretty in average xP). Other than that, it was gaming marathon time.
I didn't even sleep on Saturday, and decided to crash instead at 21:00, on Sunday. x3 A game is good when it keeps you awake for 24 hours straight xD'
Hello gorey elf! I'm good and stuffs I guess... I'm in a supermarket right now looking awfully suspicious. HehElfengore said:
Hello Kokiriloz!!, nice to see you again ^^, how you been?
and...yes.. if it's raining, sometimes I feel melancolic and this place makes me feel alright ^^' that's the reason that I post when it's raining xD
It's so odd I know it~
Tis not raining today for once!
Now that you say it, haha.kokiriloz said:
it be a gorey elf!!~
it always seems to rain when you post on here, it's so odd...
Anyway, Elfengore welcome back for a short? while =).
It has also been raining here the last few days. Pretty annoying since my parents are still on holiday, and walking the dog is left in my care. With a lazy ass brother who does almost nothing. I have to plan my walks perfectly to avoid rain, and a wet dog.
Furthermore exams this week, and the finishing week soon after.
In short I'm rather busy with cleaning, walking the dog, learning not really while I should, and spending the left over time watching anime or gaming.
This reminds me I need to iron some cloths...
Got back from my first day of work. Contrary to my previous post the weather was not hot. In fact a thunderstorm hit my work place early in the morning.
Not exactly a good sign to start my summer job...
Not exactly a good sign to start my summer job...
.....Oh yeah, it's my birthday today isn't it?
Almost missed that... zzzzzzzz.....
Almost missed that... zzzzzzzz.....
So, how was your birthday, Mr Ecchi? Sleeping sounds like an excellent way to enjoy it. :B
Personally, I like remaining silent about mine to see just who remembers. Other than my parents, very few people actually care enough about it! Which is just fine for me, I don't really care all that much for celebrating the fact that you are older xP
We all look forwards to growing older while young, after you reach "legal adult status," normally we change our minds and stop wanting to grow up, though xP
Day just started over here, the skies are covered with clouds as far as the eye can see. It's such a gray day... and the temperature is oscillating around 17 degrees. I love it, it's just my type of mellow weather (though I can't say that for the majority of residents here who love their hot summers).
Personally, I like remaining silent about mine to see just who remembers. Other than my parents, very few people actually care enough about it! Which is just fine for me, I don't really care all that much for celebrating the fact that you are older xP
We all look forwards to growing older while young, after you reach "legal adult status," normally we change our minds and stop wanting to grow up, though xP
Day just started over here, the skies are covered with clouds as far as the eye can see. It's such a gray day... and the temperature is oscillating around 17 degrees. I love it, it's just my type of mellow weather (though I can't say that for the majority of residents here who love their hot summers).
Oops! I guess I should explain ^_^' it's still my birthday ya see. I posted about it at around 1:30 am, it is now 7:36 am here. I'm not sure how I'm going to spend it though, my family wants us to go bowling but I think I'd rather stay home and go out when I actually feel like it -3- And you're right, resting would be a nice way to spend the day, especially for me since I haven't been getting much sleep lately *yawns*SK7000 said:
So, how was your birthday, Mr Ecchi? Sleeping sounds like an excellent way to enjoy it. :B
P.S. I love cool, cloudy days too! That's one of the reasons I don't feel like going out these days, it's way to hot for me >_<
Mnessie
11 months agoBecause in this case we have:
My A My B
Your A Your B
Motion from My A to My B
Motion from Your A to Your B
My A ≠ Your A
My B ≠ Your B
We are looking for our progress. So then we take C, point on the horizon which we all can agree on as perfect. We take My B and Your B and figure a way to equate those relative to C. Doing that with 4 unknown parameters will give you no solution. Doing that with a reference point you can make a comparison and conclude things about the difference in My B and Your B relative to C which can then be used to compare again with other people that use the same C.