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Now this is my kind of girl. I'll even forgive the weapons cycling and depiction errors!

...Someone must have stole her milk-money...
If the bullets don't kill you, the flying double sidekick will. (But the bullets would probably kill you.)
I dunno, this nose bleed will probably be what kills me.
*ejected by the backlash force of nose bleed*
But seriously, I think she‘s coming down from maybe a helicopter and trying to weaken the glass ceiling by shooting at it before she could crush and break through it.
Animeticklesmytoes said:
I'll even forgive the weapons cycling and depiction errors!
Recoil action handguns do not disengage the barrel until after the bullet exits. Upon exiting the bullet is enshrouded by the expanding gasses, thus the slide would not go back until after this picture. Additionally I see no real errors in weapon depiction except possibly a non standard stock on that AK74/47.
K1TSUNE said:
Recoil action handguns do not disengage the barrel until after the bullet exits. Upon exiting the bullet is enshrouded by the expanding gasses, thus the slide would not go back until after this picture. Additionally I see no real errors in weapon depiction except possibly a non standard stock on that AK74/47.
Wrong. Way wrong. The projectile contains the gas until after it's exited the barrel, allowing for the direct blow-back of the slide, even if the barrel tilts. The slide cycles AS this happens, or immediately after, if it's a delayed blow-back action. The gun in question is a HK design and has a delayed blow-back system (I have two) even so, if you see fire coming out of the barrel, then the weapon is cycling, period, and the projectile is long gone: http://www.northeastfoto.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=8949&c=4. If the projectile was enshrouded, it would lose pressure and force, as it stays ahead of the gas and is always in front. You kids with your video game experience and 5 minutes of weapons experience make me laugh. If you would like a lesson in weapons functioning and the mechanics of various actions, blow-back, gas, piston and direct gas impingement, just dmail me. I have 30 years experience.

There are lots of depiction errors, but I was just making light of it anyway, not being too sarcastic, hence the milk money comment.

Edit: Sometimes the gas will blow by the projectile when the barrel is worn or the projectile is of a heavy weight and exiting the barrel. In most photos the "gas" you see is actually moisture being condensed by the rapid movement of the projectile, or a sonic cone.
幻剑之子 said:
*ejected by the backlash force of nose bleed*
But seriously, I think she‘s coming down from maybe a helicopter and trying to weaken the glass ceiling by shooting at it before she could crush and break through it.
You wouldn't want to try this from a helo unless you ABSOLUTELY had not other recourse. You'd have to jump out the helo and hope to god you got the right angle on the swing in (nevermind the shock from the rope going taut at full extension. You ain't gonna try this with bungee rope...) No pilot worth his sanity would fly close enough to a building to allow this anyway (unless he's above the roof.) She more than likely rappelled down from the roof or another floor.
I personally own 6 guns, 3 of them handguns (not airsoft or bb). After the projectile exits the barrel there is nothing keeping the gasses from escaping around the projectile as the expansion rate of modern smokeless powder, especially handgun powder is upward of 5000 ft/s (1524 m/s) the velocity of the bullet is roughly 1000-1200 ft/s (304-365 m/s). Thus if the gas can go around the bullet it sure as hell will. Straight or direct blowback actions are only used in rimfire handguns. The reason the barrel tilts is that it does lock up. The pressure forcing the empty casing backward keeps the slide locked with the barrel only after the bullet leaves the barrel does the pressure drop allowing the locking to disengage and the slide to cycle.

edit: If I was unclear before I am saying that is the first few microseconds after the bullet exits the barrel this occurs not while the bullet is still in the barrel. when the bullet is still in the barrel the gasses do not escape around it. Also I own AR-15s and I know the mechanics of direct impingement.
K1TSUNE said:
6 guns...Thus the bullet...blowback actions are only rimfire...barrel tilts...bullet leaves...pressure drop...slide to cycle.
Wrong again. Owning a handgun does not make you an expert. You speak of "enshrouding" as it's in the process of firing, not as it has fired. Blowback actions are NOT only rimfire, MOST pistols use this action, delayed or not, and gas assisted or not. The Desert Eagle, does not. At this point you are looking too ignorant to keep commenting, face it, you are no expert and are just reaching here to save face. You are just looking all over Google to save your original comment. Your description of delayed blowback is wrong as well. It's OK, you're forgiven, just stop. The image would show the action cycling, period.

PS: Do you actually watch this happen when firing your gun? Didn't think so. When you have your Armorers certification and over 900,000 rounds (not counting the rounds spent in fire-fights in a 21 year combat career) to your credit (as I do) then come back and talk to me.

Another note: You obviously don't understand projectile vacuum and pocket void that causes the gas to "follow" the projectile.

This is where Stahn slaps us both for being off topic.
Yes, I do.
Also, if you plan on quoting large block of text, I ask you edit them to spoilers to save space. I ask the same if you plan on writing a Wall o' Text(TM) that is essentially off-topic.

As usual, cease the current discussion or take it to the forums.
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