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Let me be VERY clear. If you want to claim credit on your edits, you should credit the Original artist too.
SciFi said:
Let me be VERY clear. If you want to claim credit on your edits, you should credit the Original artist too.
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I hope you enjoy her as much as I do. Don't hold your breath for a 16:9 version, if it should come at all, since it would require widening the view -- I wouldn't really want to chop any content from the top or bottom (if anything I wanted to add more)...
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I was referring to your line at the bottom right. No mention is given that it's traced/derivative.
SciFi said:
I was referring to your line at the bottom right. No mention is given that it's traced/derivative.
The author of the original didn't sign their work. You really think they would appreciate a completely different work that they knew nothing about having their name included on it listing them as a co-creator or contributor? Using someone else's name without permission not usually considered a good thing. OTOH, that I put a title name and date on something I created is usually considered a courtesy.
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Bloody long discussion and whatnot, but I like it better when the kitsunebi was present.
What information you include in the image is a different matter than what you include in the source, tags or comments. Surely you don't believe that an artist leaving a work unsigned means they want other people to vector and/or edit it and pass it off as their own work.

We have rules here. If you are going to put your name in the image itself, you also need to make it clear in the image that it's a derivative work. That doesn't mean you have to include their name(s). But you can't just pass it off as your own work.

Alternatively, you may not place any information in the image. If you believe the comments are a suitable place to give someone credit, why don't you just leave your name out of the image and give yourself credit in the comments?
Freenight said:
Bloody long discussion and whatnot, but I like it better when the kitsunebi was present.
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Astara said:
BTW, why was 'shrine' as a tag removed? Isn't it appropriate? Or the subject matter? 'Inari'.
We have a site policy to debate the use of any new tag in the Tags thread on our forums before we begin tagging images with it, and neither 'shrine' nor 'inari' are currently active tags. You're free to propose them in that thread if you want to, but please avoid using them until they've been approved by the site administration.

Astara said:
Also, doing a google on 'second heaven', I don't get what that has to do with this photo.
We get artist tag names from a variety of sources. In this case, the artist of the derivative work uses "secondheaven02" as their account name on Pixiv (the one they use to log in); if you check the edit box for source links on some of this artist's other images, you can see it in the image URLs.

Edit: And as for the image itself... Interesting =), but as somebody who is quite fond of fire, w-whyyyyyyy did you remoooove it >.<
Using other photographer's images isn't really much of an issue and I doubt anyone would be able to tell what photograph the moon and tree came from. Using other artists' drawn work is what we're talking about.

Astara said:
Are you saying my versions are somehow simply tracings of the jagged-edged versions you claim I traced?
We never said they were "simply" tracings. Certainly you've put in a whole lot of work. But so long as you used another artist's work at any stage of the process and it remains obvious when comparing the two, we will consider it a derivative work.
minabiStrikesAgain said:
We have a site policy...
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It's damn good though. Except the background and it's flashy colorful stuff....
minabiStrikesAgain said:
We get artist tag names from a variety of sources. In this case, the artist of the derivative work uses "secondheaven02" as their account name on Pixiv (the one they use to log in); if you check the edit box for source links on some of this artist's other images, you can see it in the image URLs.
Actually, see forum #55837. As of nearly a Month ago, this no longer applies except in existing posts. Currently I'd recomend dropping the url into Danbooru's source upload, and hitting find artist.

As for my using of "tracing". if I'd intended sarcasm, it'd have been clear. If you want harsh backlash for signing your vector traces/edits, try Yandere.
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I re-upped this in .png... I think I figured out the a way to do the profile (using gimp). Also touched up the interior of the gate to make the dark band less dark, and the bright area slightly less so, as well as increased blue in the eyes
(@minabiStrikesAgain), and removed my name for the composition. FWIW, I put my name on things that are substantially different from any source materials. Scans or low-touch walls, not so much.

Example(s) scan.. and wall(s) from the scan (a 'low-touch wall'):
scan: http://www.theanimegallery.com/gallery/image:178563/sword-art-online:asunakirito
walls: http://www.theanimegallery.com/gallery/image:179490/sword-art-online:asunakirito-1920x1080
http://www.theanimegallery.com/gallery/image:179489/sword-art-online:asunakirito-2560x1600
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Note the 'notes' on the walls:
x:y crop of this scan.
(no attribution, as its just a crop -- for wallpaper convenience).
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Is it my imagination or does the jpg on the webpage make the image look a bit too red?
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