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kyxor said:
She might as well hang herself using that rope ...
May I ask what you mean? Someone flagged your comment for deletion, and it seemed an odd thing to say to me, so I was wondering, uh, whether I should leave it or not.
My guess is that he absolutely despises bondage and thinks that people who willingly partake in it should commit suicide.
Not exactly like that, Mr. Peanutbutter. Lets imagine a hypothetical scenario when this bondage is done by a psycho sadist and she knows about her inevitable death based on the past glory of such evil doer. That exact rope that goes through her leg might be the only less painful way out for her in that situation. There is no one to save her, so from the pragmatic point of view that decision seems completely reasonable. Use some imagination and you can write a basic short story for something like this, digging deep into some of philosophical aspects. Btw, the type of bondage presented here is very uncomfortable in the real world, I don't think anybody in their right mind would do that willingly (except being actor in movie). Just because Japanese artists like to exaggerate everything in their art, does not make it normal perception regardless of how many times they wish to illustrate this for me. Therefore I could be making a valid point here.
From what I've read about shibari it's not...well, for instance, the red chord traditionally used is made of a silken material. It's not coarse and rough like normal rope (though some do enjoy the burns from a more commercial type of rope). The women enjoy being tied up and even suspended in the air (or physically hurt).

Yes, it requires relinquishing some personal power but that's the core of a lot of BDSM play. You must trust your partner. You have to want to be put in that position.

You can even be taught to tie yourself in this way, actually. Which still boggles my mind.

Kinda interesting that we've heard/read such different things.
I wouldn't know how uncomfortable it is, but there are a lot of people that do this willingly. And "uncomfortable" seems fairly normal for BDSM play.

If it was too uncomfortable for you, maybe it's just not for you. Or possibly your partner didn't do it right.
Both right points. Just depends on from what culture you are coming from. I come from place where this kind of fetish is frowned upon, so that is why the first thing I thought here was in a bit different direction.
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